Where do all non-Christians go after death?

I recently read an article that asked where do all non-Christians go after death. The people writing it said they were worried that so many people must end up in Hell. And they were concerned for us, for our not having found the ‘Word of God’ and so being saved from endless torment.

And then they surmised that if God was so all-loving perhaps all non-Christians – who aren’t really that bad as people – might not end up in Hell for all eternity after all. But… who knows.

This is a quote from Joseph H. Salyards in the Padgett Messages dated April 13th, 1915:

“This unfortunate experience exists to a greater extent in matters pertaining to religion than to any other matters, because the ideas and convictions which are taught and possessed of these religious matters affect innumerably more mortals than do ideas and convictions in reference to any other matters.

“A spirit who is filled with these erroneous beliefs, that may have been taught him from his mortal childhood, and fostered and fed upon by him until he becomes a spirit, is, of all the inhabitants of this (spirit) world, the most difficult to teach and convince of the truths pertaining to religious matters. It is much easier to teach the agnostic, or even the infidel, of these truths, than the hide-bound believer in the dogmas and creeds of the church.

“So, I say, let the minds of mortals be opened to the teachings of the truth, and even if they are convinced that what they believe is the truth, yet let not that belief stand in the way of them being able to see the truth, when it actually is presented to them.”

So it would seem that the Christians have nothing to worry about concerning us infidels, and might in fact, take a look at their own ‘hide-bound’ beliefs ‘in the dogmas and creeds of the church’.

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We’ve got it all wrong

We live in a truth denying world and yet we pretend we are looking for the truth and that we find it.

We wrongly believe there are many paths to God and each of them are as good as the other, but this is not so.

We, the individual person, is the path to God, and there are many of us, however all that we call spiritual and religious paths are leading us further from the truth. Further from the truth of ourselves.

And why I can say such a thing is because all of the spiritual and religious paths that currently exist help one to deny their bad feelings.  They help one to keep their childhood repression buried and in place.  They help one to keep their head in the sand remaining ignorant to what really is going on inside them – what really they are feeling.  And such feeling denial is anti-truth.

We can’t find the truth if we’re denying feelings.  Feelings are the way to truth.

If you sincerely want to uncover the truth of yourself, find the truth out for yourself, then you’ll only be able to do it through and with your feelings.  Just learning a lot of stuff with your mind and adding new beliefs is NOT growing in truth.

If you want to find your true path then it will be revealed through your feelings. And so to find it you’ll have to stop denying any feelings.  If you say to your self such things like: ‘It’s doesn’t really matter, I’m okay, it’s nothing to worry about, I’ll be all right – I’ll get over it, it’s really not that bad’, if you stop yourself from feeling all the bad feeling tending to brush them aside believing it’s wrong or even weak to feel them, then you ARE denying feelings.  And so you are denying yourself.

And by denying yourself you will NEVER find your true path and grow in truth. All you will do is delude yourself that you are.  And all the existing spiritual systems and religions are very good at, and all designed to, keep you in your feeling-denying anti-truth state.

That is the evil we live in: believing such systems of belief are helping us find the truth of ourselves, nature and God, when in fact they are actually doing the very opposite.

When all else fails…

When you’ve tried everything and still you feel bad, still you feel unfilled, still you are wondering what it’s all about, then you may be in a position to give up, to let go, to stop trying to work it all out for yourself. And if you reach this point within yourself, then may be ready for Divine Love Spirituality.

All other spiritual and religious systems are based on the negative, a self- and feeling-denial state of mind and will. They will only serve to keep you bound up within it. They might help you live more happily and with greater feelings of self-power and even self-love and love of God, however it will all still only be within the negative.

Divine Love Spirituality is about helping you recognise that you are trapped within the negative and then helping you to heal yourself of it.

So when you’ve finally had enough of living in a self-abusive, unloving, feeling-denying state, when you’re fully prepared to give it all up, then you may be ready to consider uncovering the truth of your negative state.

But until you reach this point, Divine Love Spirituality will probably not be very appealing as it doesn’t offer any of the usual and familiar ways to strengthen your dependance of your negative state. It does all it can to help you rid yourself of it. And by doing so it will make you confront a lot of what you are using the other systems of belief to avoid. And so unless you truly want to live true, giving up all the falseness of the other ways, then it will seem too much at odds with what you want to do.

Divine Love Spirituality waits for those people who sincerely want to find the truth of themselves through their feelings. It is the opposite way to all other existing systems, which it has to be if it’s going to be of any help in leading you out of the negative state you’re already in.

(10) Message from Jesus

part of a message from Jesus – from messages from Mary and Jesus bk 2

I was fully empowered all throughout my life. You are all indeed the poor ones as you have no understanding of how I lived and what my life was like. I was born perfect with my soul free from sin and evil. You were born full of sin and evil. Our lives have little in common except our Heavenly Parents.

I lived to demonstrate the love of These Parents, to show how much They loved me, and in turn how Their Love for me enabled me to love you. I taught you, humanity, the way to this Love, and if you longed for it your heart too would open as mine did; to God, to humanity and indeed all Creation with love, and you too would be able to love as I do. I taught that the road to follow me was not smooth, meaning, that because your souls were caught up in the Rebellion and Default you had a harder journey to make than I. But I taught that you could do it, and if not in this physical life, then in the life after, in spirit, and I demonstrated that all would not be lost for I would be there to greet you and continue to help you along this road. And the offer is still standing, for some time at least. And as I have said, after this time, still you will be helped by Mary and my Spirits of Truth, as they will always be there.

If I came now the Church would not know what to do, and it would certainly say I was the devil incarnate, the anti-Christ, as I would threaten its very foundation of untruth, and so they would seek to destroy me just as the Jewish rulers did long ago. And so ironically they would be destroying the very Jesus, Son of God that they are purporting to worship. And even though I am not amongst you in flesh, you fail to understand the significance of my Spirit of Truth, for by its very existence amongst you, I am ‘walking’ with you. So you see I have never left. At any time you can ask me if all you believe is true; and you can long to the Father and Mother to help you see if what you believe is true or a lie; and at any time you do, my Spirit of Truth will answer you, which is as good as you asking me personally as if I was standing with you.

You don’t need me physically in flesh by your side holding your hand for my Spirit of Truth attends your every breath. It is however required that you are responsible for your own life, and the truth you choose to live by. By believing what the Church says you are not discovering for yourself your own expression of truth, and so you will never know that you are wrong, or what is right.

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(5) Message from Mary Magdalene

part of a message from Mary – from messages from Mary and Jesus bk 2

… And all through it I want you to ask, and even if necessary, to beg the Mother and Father to show you the truth of why you are feeling bad. THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT – TO WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH OF WHY YOU ARE FEELING BAD. For without wanting to know why – what’s the point, you may as well just keep on denying them, doing things believing they are making you feel good.

I don’t want you to go to Them with your mind for a quick answer, although you can discuss everything with Them, but to ask Them to SHOW YOU THE TRUTH THROUGH YOUR FEELINGS, so you can feel, and experience, and know categorically for yourself, why you feel bad. The truth will come up in independently to your mind, your mind should be kept out of it, until the truth has come as a result of your expressing your feelings, then you can use it to think about all you have see. You have to want to know your feelings, all the reasons why you feel so bad.

So remember: bad is good. And you can trust in the Mother and Father, They will only give you as much bad feelings at anyone time as They know you can deal with. And They will give you what YOU need. Do not look at others experiences and then try to live the same for yourself; compare and share experiences by all means, but what YOU need to feel and experience and express is what They know you need to, right then and now. They will guide you, and it is your complete and personal journey with Them.

To want to feel bad is hard. To be in pain and to ask the Mother and Father to help you to see and feel the truth is hard. To then still want the pain, and then more pain, is even harder. However, I am not saying you have to be a martyr, gritting your teeth and bearing it all no matter what, no, you do what you feel you must do. IT IS ALL ABOUT HONOURING YOUR FEELINGS ALL THE TIME, EVEN IF THEY SEEM CONTRADICTORY FROM ONE MOMENT TO THE NEXT, FOLLOW THEM AND EXPRESS EVERY ONE OF THEM…


… Ask the Mother and Father to break down all your negative mental patterns, to show you all your wrong beliefs and behaviours that have resulted because of these beliefs – ask Them to liberate all your childhood repression. Ask Them to strip you back to your pure soul and tell Them that you want to live with a pure and positive and loving mind. Tell Them that you want to see every part of you that hates yourself and why you do; and you want to feel and see why you are angry. Want to hate and be angry. You don’t have to do anything about any of your feelings except honour them, and accept that you have them, just allow yourself to be them and express them. When you feel like killing your mother or raging at your father you don’t have to follow through with such actions, but you do have to allow yourself to feel how much you want to kill her or rage at him and say what your feelings make you feel and what they make you feel like doing. Tell your friend or partner, tell the Mother and Father ALL you feel. No matter how embarrassed, or shameful, or terrible, or stupid, or bad you think you are. Remember it’s not the real you, it’s only bad stuff that has been put into you…

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DLS and reincarnation

I believed in reincarnation. In fact it had a lot to do with my initial interests in spirituality. A woman guided me to imagine that I was floating up on a cloud out of my current life, landing back on Earth in a past life. I saw many things. I even went and visited my future lives. But that was all long ago, and I have changed a lot since then. I have ventured into doing my soul-healing, the healing of my childhood repression through my bad feeling acceptance with the Divine Love. I have revealed to myself the truth of reincarnation, the truth that my experiences of my past and future lives were all fantasy, something my Indwelling Spirit conveniently made up for me because that was what I wanted. I needed to believe in such falseness to run away from the bad feelings I was denying. Now I know that reincarnation is only a belief and one not even based on fact.

I wanted to believe that reincarnation was real and true. And like we all can, we can believe all we want, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is true. So for myself now I know it is all nonsense, something made up by a person or people who didn’t understand about their childhood repression. And it’s still believed by people to don’t understand about their childhood repression. And I know it will still be something of a question as to whether it is real or not until one has progressed in the healing of ones childhood repression, until one has moved along to the point of knowing the truth for oneself.

Reincarnation is a good example of belief used to escape from the hidden pain of ones childhood repression. It is much easier to blame ones past life for errors and evils and to look to ones future lives to make amends, sort things out, and come back into the light, but it doesn’t work that way. Nothing could be further from the truth.

When you start healing your childhood repression, and when you start dealing with issues such as what your parents were like at your conception and how they were relating to you and each other, then you soon come to understand that all you are has all resulted from this life, and that nothing has come from previous lives – that it doesn’t have to.

Life is an ascension of truth. We can read in The Urantia Book to understand how we set out from Earth to grow and evolve in truth all the way up through the many universes to Paradise. And as you understand this and relate it to how you feel as you heal your childhood repression, you will feel within you how it – your incarnation, your souls personality expression in Creation, has all begun at your conception, all to carry on through the first leg of your universal career – ascending to Paradise, the Home of God.

When you come to understand the significance of Personality, how all Creation is an expression of personality, and how you only have your one personality, then you will be able to understand that were there multiple incarnations of flesh, then you would have multiple personalities, all of which would be a violation of soul, as your soul only expresses two personalities, yours and your soul-mates.

And when you feel and then live the truth of your personality, as it is revealed to you through your feeling and soul-healing, then you will know that such a belief is only a manufactured escape used by truth-ignorant people who can’t face the harsh reality of their childhood repression.